#5 Robert Kramer (Part Three)

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On this episode, Robert and I wrap up our three-part conversation. We talk about going on tour when we were 18, Robert's time in Phoenix & Nashville studying audio engineering, getting drunk & writing songs, and how much better & more humanistic music is when it has some damn mistakes in it.

Also, we have a special guest appearance from Cleopatra in the podcast intro.

Robert Kramer is a singer/songwriter from Bismarck, ND. You can hear his 2014 solo album, The South & Goodbye, on his website: robertkramer.bandcamp.com

The photograph used in this episode’s cover artwork was shot by Kat Kirschmann.